Hi Catherine, I also lived at 100 Harmony Row and also live in Canada. I went to St. Anthony's Primary School and after passing my quallies I went to St. Gerard's. Somewhere along the Govan Road, there was a sweet shop with a train set that would go around all the big jars of sweets. I was born in 23 McGregor Street Teucharhill in 1962 and remember my mum waiting until the last minute and getting a lift to the polling station, promising to vote for whichever party candidate provided the transport (aye right) still though when the 70s arrived I would have voted for the blonde wummin shouting through a megaphone at the end of the street even though I'd no idea what she was on about or what party she represented, she was a bit of a belter called Margo MacDonald. From terrace proud to alley base I know thee as my mother's face. Get into Govan. My father was a chemist who worked for the SCWS. We love it here, but still go back to Scotland every other year. 6 Great times. My dad was Boaby Rodgers he got knocked down and killed when I was 3 in 1964 and my mum was left a widow with 4 wee girls. We had 4 Cinemas that we could go to and the swimming baths and all the dykes round the back to jump and all the different games we played outdoors until the street lights went on and Dad shouted out the window it was time to come up the stairs. The people of Govan didn't often use a vet, but came into the shop with their poorly pets and we all fussed over them, cuddled them, nursed them and Jackie recommended and administered patent pet medicines like Bob Martins. I have been looking up my family history and her father Michael and all his brothers and sisters were born in Govan between 1884 and 1896. The church, situated at the west end of the village of Govan, and about 100 yards from the Clyde, was built in 1826, and is a plain structure containing 1096 sittings: the . Community organisation. The church of Govan was a prebend of Glasgow. Third, the importance of housing management services such as concierge or neighbourhood warden duties are understated in the document, and they are not considered as playing a core public service in the maintenance and upkeep of the areas they service.10 Scottish Skier February 15, 2020 at 7:51 PM. There I was, short hair, snotty-nosed from crying and eating an ice cream cone. [42] The ships were built by the following companies: Robert Napier & Company, Randolph Elder & Company, Dobbie Hedderwick & Co., Dobie & Company, Mackie & Thomson, Smith & Rodgers, London & Glasgow Engineering and Iron Shipbuilding Co. Ltd., William Beardmore & Company, John Elder & Company, Fairfield Shipbuilding & Eng. I also remember the candy apple man and rag man, I also remember at the top of Greenfield Street as a wee boy of 8 watching a horse drawn Beatties bread wagon relieving itself, what a flood lots of great memories. Lived there all the way through the 70's until we moved to Cardonald in 1980. Newsquest Media Group Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. Wine Alley was in a part of Govan which is "pretty much gone now but it was notorious," he described. It was a real shame to junk those old tenements instead of refurbishing them. :bbpd: The above digital stories were made by members of Govan Reminiscence Group for the Heritage Lottery funded Britain From Above Community Project in Govan, Glasgow, during Spring 2014. Anyway gabgabgab, lots more if anyone is interested. Does anyone remember Reid the baker who was in Neptune Street around about the 1950s? Lots of memories too many to say here. Almost went to St Anthony's primary. Sergeant Angus McIvor and constable Bob McDonald were the two cops who had bravely filmed the gang operating from one of the empty flats. Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company Ltd. 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I was a deckhand on the TSS Shleldhall sewage ship that sailed down the Clyde every day Monday to Friday to the tail of the bank, there we discharged the load then made a circle before heading back up home. Sources Home - Wineally Glasgow Tower - Glasgow - WorldPlaces Another is the horses and carts assembled at Harmony Row. Would love to hear from you. Little did we no that years later I would be living above that very shop. I married in Glasgow, Scotland in 1974 and emigrated to Canada that same year, I have lived in Canada ever since. Skater Girl. You Wine Alley Govan Team were shite begs. approached in flavour to wine. He thought that important questions are never asked because mistakes in the finish of the whole are not seen until it is too late. Quickshift Tyre Services - - WorldPlaces Media/news company. The Old Govan Fair. I went to Broomloan Rd nursery then the school. This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's Ai uitat contul? It goes on to say that although bad housing design, and the allowance of dilapidation has been part of the problem, still housing is not the whole answer. This present attitude towards housing has serious implications for the future. I attended Notre Dame School and Jackie told customers this to reassure them of the standard of my handwriting! We lived in Linthouse at that time, and then we moved to Shaw Street in Govan. I was wondering if anyone had any information on the McSherry family? We went back to Govan until we could get passage, and I attended Bellahouston Academy. Built in the early 1930s by the 1970s the Wine Ally had developed a fearsome reputation, the council \"modernised\" it and tried to reintroduce the original name Moorepark but after 40 years of being the Wine Alley most people forgot about or even knew that the Wine Ally was originally called Moorepark and did not approve of the name Moorepark and continued to call it Wine Alley. Members of our family have now moved away to other locations in Glasgow and Paisley, but we still remember our childhoods growing up in Govan. If either cop was caught then they were on a hiding to nothing. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. There was a chapel in the parish at Partick. But then officers were based in a more forbidding Victorian building about a mile away in Orkney Street. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. From start to finish this series has been amazing roll on book four! The main point of the Presentation was that, in an area which had lost 80% of its population (between 1951 and 2001), the re-zoning of demolished housing areas for warehousing and offices meant that there was less chance of people coming back into the area to live, as houses were needed in these areas and not anonymous commercial barns and offices. Would love to hear if anyone remembers the Wallace family! 122m The Govan Shed . The wine in the Wine Alley nickname was not expensive red and whites like Beaujolais and merlot. And Linda Paterson, I knew your dad Geordie Paterson, and I think he had a brother Willie. 5 on our backs to the midden motor outside the closes or houses where we worked. Most of it has now been demolished to make way for an industrial estate. I guess I drifted away from Govan for some time although I watched it contract as the shipyard industry faded and that was until my interest was aroused as the company I was working for took up new premisis near the Southern General as it was then. Furthermore, although the new regeneration programme mentions housing quality and physical improvements as valid points in deprived locals, they are still regarded as unessential to regeneration. Any way they started to ask us our schools and of course my mates answered Broomloan Rd, Bellahouston and Lorne St, but when it came my turn my truthful answer was Our Lady and St Margaret's Primary just up the road from here. [8] Govan is Baile a' Ghobhainn (the smith's town) in Scottish Gaelic. On 13 July 1577, the teinds of Govan were granted to the University of Glasgow, and the Principal of the University ex officio was appointed minister of the parish. My Granny lived at 60 Greenfield Street next to Mrs Knox's wee shop. 13 Bailey and Hastings, 2004, p. 92 I then went to Govan High, teachers I remember and not with any fondness are Jockey Rayburn (Maths) Duncan (English) and Miss Downny (Maths) who was a lovely teacher, I had two brother George and Stuart who also went to the same primary and also went to Govan High. Thus, when Renfrewshire was created out of a sheriffdom of Lanarkshire in the early fifteenth century, the lands associated with the hospital (Polmadie) were not technically in the newly created shire, as they were not part of the sheriffdom. Man will spend up to 40 years in prison for raping woman he - pennlive Resources were stretched as detectives dealt with high levels of violence including murder - much of it drug related. When he had gone, we used to draw pictures in the coal dust on the white sheet on our bed. The lack of house building was not only an added threat to the existing shops and services but also to community life which was struggling just to survive because of the lack of houses. I went about with Harry Bitters, Nick Shearer and John McLeod in the mad days of the early 70s. Without a home, mankind has no place. Pieces 'n Jam and a Bottle of Water climb on top of a Air Raid Shelter and have a picnic, Aye happy days and not a Tablet or Mobile phone in site. Mark Taplin forges ahead with Victor Harbor marina plan | The Mercury The man caught in the earlier operation with 50,000 of drugs in Helen Street was given six years. [19] It was removed in the early 19th century and Reid's Dyeworks was erected on the site. I would so love to hear from you if you do. A big gang of kids would all go to the pictures on Saturday afternoon and one kid would pay to get in and then would go round to the fire escape door and open it and let the rest of the kids in for free. With its bad name, many people from Moorepark could not get jobs while those that could often disguised their addresses and, if they a they moved away because of its bad reputation Gradually, the decrease in services, coupled with, a by now high turnover of tenancie let house, led to the accretion of demoralised families coming into the scheme and all the stories about Moorparks good-for-nothing population seemed to be justified. Police Scotland. The wines were delicious but unfortunately out of my price range. Pauline Belkadi: Thanks for the name of the shop 'Bobby's'. Log In. We all loved living there as Govan was such a great place and had everything you needed, especially four cinemas. No1seems2care. [9] It had also been parodied by the BBC Scotland television comedy series Rab C. Nesbitt, with Wine Alley and the wider Govan area the stated setting for the show, though episodes were seldom filmed there. I grew up in Govan from 1946 to 1957 in Wick St. My family moved from North Uist to Govan to find work as did many others. Not a penny in our pockets other than the price of admission to the pictures on a Saturday afternoon and some extra for some sweeties, I remember my grandmother used to give Helen my sweetie coupons from the back of the Ration Book, as she had such a sweet tooth that she would have ate her way through February and March coupons even though it was only January and stores knew we were still going to be rationed for some time to come (I didn't have a sweet tooth so always had coupons to spare). Years ago Govan was a brilliant shopping place. [28], In 1977, the Labour government of James Callaghan passed the Aircraft and Shipbuilding Industries Act which nationalised Govan and grouped it with other major British shipyards as British Shipbuilders. images & design by The Poverty Alliance Glasgow Braendam Link 2005, Sitting here on our computers at the end of 2022, The Glasgow User Manual An Almanac and Peoples Guide To the city, Information obesity (Relating to activism), Positive Thinking and the Positive Thinking Industry, Triangulation ( Try things from a different angle), BRENDAN McLAUGHLIN lifes a Bowl o Cherries, ADAM McNAUGHTON JIM McLEAN The Glasgow I Used To Know, ALEXANDER RODGER (1784-1846) Sawney, Now The Kings Come, JOHN TAYLOR CALDWELL The Battle For The Green, RUTHERGLEN DRAMA GROUP Caterpillar Talking Blues, PHIL McPHEE Hutchie E- A Monument to Corruption, Stupidity and Bad Planning, JOHN McGARRIGLE Write nice thingslast night, PETER ARNOTT & PETER MULLAN Beechgrove Garden Festival, ROBERT LYNN Not a Life Story, Just a Leaf From It, R. D. LAING from Wisdom, Madness and Folly, ALEX CATHCART Nostalgically Speaking Imagination is Money. I was born in Govan, at home, on Luath Street in 1935. This is a small family owned and operated place. I found this site by mistake while i was trying to find people that i used to hang around with in Govan, I lived in Rathlin Street, opposite the Elder picture house, my mum and dad were Mary and Eddie Mellon and brothers Paul and Ward. In particular, urban communities are increasingly constrained by both local and governmental authorities, and also by outside economic factors, which can and do prohibit perceived changes for the better. I spent 18 months there before being released on a three-year parole where I took a job in the local Cleansing Department as a midgy-man. Their powerlessness in this matter soon became clear when Moorepark was deliberately targeted as a dumping ground for Glasgows homeless, those on low incomes, and people with few housing points who were enabled to jump the waiting list if they accepted a house in the scheme. Our father would be home right before we had to leave for school, so he would take us as it was not safe to cross Langlands Rd., Unfortunately, the week before Christmas in 1943, our grandfather was killed by a bus right at the Vogue cinema. THURSO BERWICK (1919-1981) Hullo! A friend called Carol Slater. Life in wine alley I was born in 1950 and brought up in Govan in the Moorepark housing estate or the Wine Alley, as it was commonly known. It brought tears to our eyes as they have destroyed a lot of the buildings that should have been refurbished. My brother and I would wait for the coal lorry to come round the corner and hang onto the back of it as it drove up the street. Been looking at the old pictures of Govan and wondered if anyone remembers my father's Chemist/Optician shop at Govan Cross near Helen St, 830 Govan Road. Also, among the plans for Govans hub was a programme to make Govans main shopping area more attractive such as joining Govans Market, Shopping Centre, Underground and bus depot together under the one roof. [26], Govan's other major shipbuilding firm was founded in the 1860s as: Randolph, Elder and Company, later becoming John Elder and Company. Once the area had gained a bad reputation (through no fault of its own), this was picked up by Govans local newspaper, The Govan Press, who furthered the image in a relentlessly aggressive campaign against the inhabitants until even the authorities began to believe it too. I had to leave early as I was going to a residential orchestral camp but I was so heartbroken at the shop closing, I didn't want to miss a moment of that last day. Will they be full participants at setting the agenda for their locals or are these just pie crust promises?11 Will the same old story of the past three decades resurface where members of local communities are merely informed or consulted about changes in which they have no say?12 Perhaps one of the worst errors that the new regeneration policy is now making is that of ignoring the potential of local housing organisations as important instruments for inclusion and social capital, and their spill over effects of wider social and economic developments and issues. It is now an industrial estate . I worked in Fairfields in the seventies, does anyone remember the name of the bike shop at the Linthouse end beside the roundabout. I went to St. Margaret's and I remember Susan's shop where she would stand outside to see where people where buying their messages from. [31] GEC's Marconi Marine division already owned YSL (purchased in 1985) and VSEL (purchased in 1995). I look forward to reading further. In this way they dispelled the idea of the workers being "work-shy" and also wanted to illustrate the long-term viability of the yards. Of all the memories that I hold dear as a very young boy, was the guy pushing a barrow every Saturday afternoon selling bags of whelks! If there is anyone out there that remembers me please contact me :). [31], In 1999, GEC's Marconi Marine division purchased the yard when Kvrner announced its departure from the shipbuilding industry. I remember a little dog who was hit by a car and people brought him straight in to us. Dry Docks Cafe. What jobs? | Golf Monthly When the sirens went for everyone to go to their shelters, our grandfather had to come and help her take us to St. Anthony's school (our shelter). My sister and I were married in 1961 at Govan Parish where we were members. I remember the days my sister and I would take part in the fair while we were in a dancing school, which was named Thompsons. Contact Us. Registered in England & Wales | 01676637 |. Teddy boys jumped on little bike and broke it. The faults were caused mainly by a lack of insulation and waterproofing at the joints in the concrete panels, which made up the structure. It is situated 2.5 miles (4.0 km) west of Glasgow city centre, on the south bank of the River Clyde, opposite the mouth of the River Kelvin and the district of Partick. Clydebuilt Database - Shipping Times, Stuart Cameron. Went to the new Hills Trust School in about 1975 where Mrs Carnegie was head teacher. At the time, it was the fifth largest burgh in Scotland and contained within its boundaries, the areas of Plantation, Cessnock, Ibrox, Craigton and Drumoyne. It was like growing up in a wasteland! Providing a family base with a family room in Govan, with weekly meetings in Govan and Easterhouse Providing consistent, non-judgmental support to families and individuals, and home visits to families in crisis However, as soon as Bishop Loch got permission to build, they immediately decided to cancel the hotel, and double the amount of private houses to a 1,000. Regular bus services, mainly operated by McGill's Bus Services and First Glasgow, offer frequent routes to Glasgow City Centre, as well as to numerous locations in Renfrewshire. He wanted to discover how and why such places came into being and to see if remedies could be found. Second, it encourage prospects for social inclusion by impioving living conditions and life changes while a third (indirect) factor is that, by working with authority, it can augment the personal development and enhanced confidence that participation can bring.9 Town officials arranged for the deepening of the Clyde in 1759, the reclamation of the channels between the islands (The Whyte Inch, The Black Inch, and The King's Inch), and the construction of quays and docks. I remember Betty McPhee, Margaret Liversidge, the Gourlay brothers and Brian Wilson.We lived in the top floor for a few years and the moved to bigger flat on first floor with a bathroom. Glorious Govan. [11], By the 16th century, extensive coal mine workings had been developed around Craigton and Drumoyne. In reply to these petitions, the Scottish Parliament wrote to Glasgow City Council and to Scottish Enterprise Glasgow, asking for their responses to the submission and within 4 months, Glasgow Council had taken steps to set up the Central Govan Action Plan.16 It was regarded at the time as perhaps the worst slum in Britain, and the people who lived there were treated like vermin by the authorities whom we treated likewise. There existed a hospital in the area, and as quasi-religious foundations were not taxed, it had never been assigned to a sheriffdom. Vezi mai multe de la Sunny Govan Memories pe Facebook. First, this fosters connectedness seen in social capital and enhanced trust in government and in fellow citizens. Used go there for coffee and listen to juke box. or. I screamed blue murder, he wanted to pull my pants down, but no way I letting him do that to me. The local hire firm in Govan wasn't aware that their customer was a drug dealer. Added to these miseries, Damer also found that drug The jumps I remember were at the swing park at Harhill across from the steamie and at Greenfield where we jumped the middens and shelter and going along the wall (single brick width). In 1885, the yard moved further west to its present site and was reorganised as the Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company Ltd. Wine Alley Open at Woodin Creek Village The area was parodied in the BBC sitcom Rab C. Nesbitt, though episodes were usually filmed elsewhere. It was very hard during the war for our mother as our brother was three years older and our father was a shipyard worker, working nightshift.

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